A Different Kind of Conversation

Julia Couzens, Martin Durazo, Nancy Evans, Ishi Glinsky, Paula Goldman, Elliot Hundley, Tom Knechtel, Young Joon Kwak, Parris Patton, Page Person, Laurie Steelink, Shirley Tse, with display pedestals by Tucker Strasser
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Opening Thursday, June 19, 6-9 pm
On view June 20 and 21, Noon - 5 pm
Sunday, June 22, Noon - 3 pm: Pie party
… I think art, if it's meaningful at all, is a conversation with other artists.
You say something, they say something, you move back and forth.
-John Baldessarri, October 9, 2013, Interview Magazine
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Being an artist isn’t easy. Between the challenges of making engaging work, and then connecting with paths to present it to the world, there are countless opportunities to stumble or lose heart. Additionally, there are also the ceaseless tides of the larger world: the weight of political developments, swings of the economy, climate change, personal relationships, just paying the bills. In short, life. Some kind of unshakable, optimistic tenacity seems necessary. Believing it is the thing to do, or possibly being obsessed that making art is the only thing to do.
Peers, other artists, are for so many essential for survival. Not only during the crucible of scholastic experiences, but throughout lifetimes. For criticism, support, commiseration, and shared celebrations of accomplishments. This project is about artist communities in Los Angeles. About the formation and continuation of relationships.
Long time Los Angeles artist Nancy Evans was in a somewhat exploratory mood in making a small series of modest sized slip cast ceramic sculptures around 2005. At some point, unsure of how to proceed, they found their way into a storage box. As it can often happen the objects took on lives of their own, they experienced the passage of time as physical entities in the world. In looking at them recently they felt like they wanted a new life, or rather further engagement with the world; a second life. Evans asked several trusted friends to complete the pieces however they saw fit.
Evans had recently participated in the Hammer Museum’s 2023 Made in LA biennial, Acts of Living. An experience through which she made many new artists connections who brought energy and influence into her life. These recent relationships also energized existing ones, reminding her of the important dynamics with peers known for decades, many of whom were also asked to complete sculptures. The installation of the works is intended to parallel the personal relationships and ongoing conversations.
Twelve artists in all here. A small sampling of the overall artist population of Southern California, but it becomes a case study for the paths of origin for these crucial relationships.
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One of the only things that the art world can really give you is your peers. When you
start becoming an artist you’re not promised you’re going to have a dealer, you’re not
promised you’re going to have sales, you’re not promised the world is going to pay any
attention to you. But the one thing you can do is, you can build a network of peers.
- Tom Knechtel (who was paraphrasing Pat Steir, in Klein Artists Works)
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Follow the work, follow the work, follow the work ... and help other artists, for success raises all boats.
- Julia Couzens (VoyageMIA 2018)








Page Person
witch’s teat, 2025
acrylic with hair and nail extension on porcelain
14 x 4.5 x 3 inches

Martin Durazo
Party Favor/Nostril, 2025
Plexiglas box with lights, ceramic, glitter
9.25 x 9.25 x 9.25 inches

Laurie Steelink
The Missionary Position, 2025
Mixed media consisting of ceramic, leather, tin, metal wire, beads, nylon, and horse’s hair
11 x 9 x 14 inches

Young Joon Kwak
Divine Druid, 2025
glass rhinestones, wax pigment, ceramic
11 x 6 x 4 inches

Shirley Tse
Nancy’s Hand, 2025
4 paper works, one ceramic work
12 x 4.5 x 3 inches each, five parts total

Elliot Hundley
Pair 2025
ceramic, chains
13 x 14 x 3 inches

Julia Couzens
Weird Angel, 2025
fabric, thread, frame, ceramic, feathers
24 x 27 x 21 inches

Parris Patton
Arthropod 1, 2025
Ceramic cone, twigs, sand, pebbles, glass bead, grass flock
15 x 20 x 11 inches

Ishi Glinsky
Untitled, 2025
ceramic and oil paint
12 x 4.5 x 3 inches

Nancy Evans
Demeter, 2025
ceramic, melted wax
12 x 8 x 4 inches

Paula Goldman
Conversations (1-5), 2025
Unique archival pigment print on canvas, in artist frame
20 x 14 inches each (five parts, only one pictured above)

Tom Knechtel
Untitled, 2025
ceramic, black gesso, kozo paper and ink
4 x 11 x 4 inches

Martin Durazo
Two Pinks, 2025
acrylic and spray paint on canvas,
10 x 8 inches